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Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2008.04.19 15:32:00 -
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Edited by: Jade Constantine on 19/04/2008 15:32:58
 Originally by: Inanna Zuni
Edited by: Inanna Zuni on 18/04/2008 18:32:42
Candidates were asked to supply a text of "up to 100 words" yet is clear that some (Mark Jenkins, Andrew Cruse, Niall Dologhan, Nicholas Craig White, Gregory Pratt, for example) have far exceeded this. Do you propose to reduce their text to the limit set, and/or permit the opportunity for others who kept to the limit to now increase their submission?
I think quite a few people exceeded 100, yourself included actually  - I wrote mine in word and copy/pasted to make sure the text box would allow the entry. Realistically the best thing would be for all candidates to be able to edit their campaign message (or for ccp to commit to update messages as requested) and allow everyone the opportunity to say a little more about their campaigns if they wish.
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Otherwise, great to see so many candidates!
Agreed, its a very good turnout addressing a nice range of issues.
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Posted - 2008.04.19 15:39:00 -
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Originally by: D'ceet
Since i am unable to participate in this CSM election - due to my inability to secure a passport in time, i hereby take this time to back the following candidates, failing one the other will take the place (in no particular order)
Jade Constantine
Lavista Vista
Noghri ViR(assuming he gives me my battleship ;P)
Daveydweeb - anyone who wants to reduce tedious pos warfare automatically gets on this list
Sorry to hear you can't participate D'Ceet, and thank you for your partial endorsement of my campaign. Nice to get a vote of confidence from another candidate. All the best.
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Posted - 2008.04.19 15:53:00 -
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Originally by: Ankhesentapemkah
Discussions on past forum statements and such /trust issues
I'm not going to get involved in this debate one way or another and I don't have strong feelings about your past history Ank, but it is interesting how the candidates are going to be held up and measured by their forum posting records in this campaign. It kinda reminds me a little about the hilarious "HC and snipers" scandal from the US primaries. I think we're all going to have to a bit careful about getting caught out contradicting earlier statements for current campaign advantage knowing that our entire public posting history is on record now.
(Got me going back over eve-search to check out whether I'd written something really embarrassing with my first post on eve-online but I breathed a sigh of relief to discover it was only me asking to buy modules for a ratting Maller! --- phew!) ---> though I guess it might reveal my secret Amarrian ship fetish, opps, better make sure I don't get draw on laser balance issues 
Anyway, good luck with your campaign Ank and try not to take criticisms too seriously at the moment, we're all going to get a lot of eggs thrown at us on the campaign trail over the next month and some good humour and smiles are going to be essential parts of our travel kit. Just stick with the message and give it a good old try!
All the best.
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Posted - 2008.04.19 16:03:00 -
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Originally by: Tzar'rim
Apart from that, and this is stated multiple times, the CSM candidates should have no bias. Having an opinion on certain aspects of the game and using that in your campaign by default shows that you are biased.
I guess that means I'm not getting your vote then Tzar'rim. Since I'm pretty damn biased in favour of enhanced dynamism and engagement variety in pvp conflict. And if I wasn't running you can also be quite sure I'd be voting for somebody with passion and opinion and positive bias also. I think you are misunderstanding something of the nature of the CSM concept at core to be honest with you. If it was just a matter of objective passing of voting preferences from the eve-public at large to the devs for attention couldn't the whole process be better served by just establishing a new forum section with a series of anonymous polls?
But I don't think it is that. I read the CCP Xhagen's document pretty carefully before I decided to commit to this campaign and I'm taking him at his word when he says he wants this to be a full implementation of representative democracy in Eve online. This means we need representatives who stand for vision and preference and can brainstorm the solutions to current problems with the game. If this was just a PR thing for stuffed-shirts and yes men to present clipboards of current threadnaught topics it would be rubbish. Its not that, its an actual opportunity for CCP to discover that the Eve public and their chosen representatives are in favour of bold and exciting changes to the nature of the game that will keep things fresh and dynamic for the next five years.
And thats got to be a good thing.
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Posted - 2008.04.19 18:36:00 -
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Originally by: Tzar'rim
You are correct in assuming that you're not getting my vote, it's nothing personal ofcourse. It is not up to you/CSM to come up with the subjects that need to be brought to CCP, it is up to the active players who post the problems that are at hand. The CSM is just the portal, the translator... NOT the source.
Mmm, but of course I'd counter by saying that the platform I'm standing on IS entirely representative of those players opinions I've already gathered over the course of actively playing in territorial conflict and empire wars over the last several years. These policy items I'm advocating don't simply appear from thin air Tzar'rim, they are the collective benefit of actively playing in these arenas and listening to player concerns for a long long time.
The fact I've chosen to advocate these issues at CSM level is representative of my personal bias/interest in these aspects of the game sure - but its not accurate to describe this advocacy as purely personal in foundation. Yep the CSM is a portal for transfering player interests to the dev team, but there are many ways of gathering these concerns, its not wise to write off everything but absolute objective transparent cypher-status from the word go.
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Posted - 2008.04.22 15:54:00 -
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Edited by: Jade Constantine on 22/04/2008 15:54:30
Originally by: Caleese
It appears you've put a lot of thought into that list Talkuth. Somewhat akin to printing out the candidates names, taping them to a door, putting on a blindfold and hurling a dart at them to help you choose.
Thats an unfair statement to make Caleese. He's explained his thought process and how he reached the decision at every stage. Things like editing out the people who posted no campaign message. Or who have chosen to be utterly "neutral" with no policy preference are all accountable and traceable facts - its not random like hurling darts at a door - its his personal preference and he's explaining how he reached that position.
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Do you realise that out of your list of 15 candidates, I could only find 1 with more than 10 posts in the Features and Ideas forum. 3 wouldn't come up on eve search, so if I'm generous and include them, that means [b]less than a third of your list have shown any inclination to contribute to changing this game already
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Thats a potentially fair point - but then again take my own example - I READ features and ideas forum, I don't often post there. Does that mean I have no inclination to contribute to changing this game - hardly. I consider myself an advocate of pretty important game changes for the benefit and enjoyment of all and thats what my own personal manifesto is about. Did I invent every new idea in my manifesto? - nope, definitely not. I'm not standing as some kind of game messiah as the font of all good knowledge. I AM standing as a person who loves Eve and can recognise good ideas when I see them. I have a sense of the big-picture and awareness of what needs changing if this great game is going to continue and become greater yet. And I have the confidence and drive to promote other people's good suggestions to the highest levels to make these things happen. I think this is any politicians job really - ensuring that the best ideas get the best support and make the best possible impact for all our interests.
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I doubt there's many people who actually know more than 2 of these candidates personally. We don't know what sort of person they are, or what they stand for.
Well Caleese, I'd invite you to read my CSM blog and listen to the lecture I gave to Eve-uni a couple of weeks ago. That should give a pretty good idea of what you'd be getting from a vote for Jade in this election.
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At this stage this CSM election is looking to be exactly what I hoped it wouldn't become... a popularity contest. If this is the case, we may as well scratch the whole idea now because it won't achieve a single thing. The sort of people I want to see on the CSM are those who have taken a stand, and put ideas out there already. These are the people that actually give a crap about our game.
Some of it is going to be a popularity contest because we have a number of "big-alliance" candidates standing on their own fame and peer group adulation etc etc. But others have actually provided a detailed platform and expressed a preference on key issues facing this game. If you feel strongly it shouldn't be a simple popularity contest then vote for the best advocate of the policies you personally care about regardless of alliance affiliations - its your vote, use it!
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